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on the defensive i think he looks weak. he has to stay on the march. >> chris: what do you think is is the top priority for the president in the debate and being that it as town hall how does he get more aggressive with romney when has to respond to real people with real problems and not just questions from reporters? >> the race is volatile and can two either direction i think. what is really important for obama, he can't come on in the next debate and all of a sudden be a different person in a radical way. people are going to say wait a minute, is this showmanship. and i think the key question is remember everyone was kicking around this idea of are you better off now than you were four years ago. i think the question people want answered is how are you going to make me better off in the next year, in the next four years and if you really look at the details neither campaign has answered that sufficiently and it is quite possible that somebody is going to come out with something and explain what they really mean and what
on the defensive i think he looks weak. he has to stay on the march. >> chris: what do you think is is the top priority for the president in the debate and being that it as town hall how does he get more aggressive with romney when has to respond to real people with real problems and not just questions from reporters? >> the race is volatile and can two either direction i think. what is really important for obama, he can't come on in the next debate and all of a sudden be a...
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then i got all of the defense lawyers to sign it. the white house counsel. and then my son told me you're missing one signature dad. guess the signature i was missing? >> you're own? >> the president. >> when the trial took place -- >> wait a minute. i got the president to sign it >> he did? >> sure. >> where is it now? >> hanging in a safe place. i -- people say how did you get the president to sign it and i say i asked him to. i handed it to him and he looked down and he saw chuck's signature. he's left-handed. he just signed it across the top. >> that was an excerpt from an old history interview with specter in 2011. the former pennsylvania senator died today at the age of 82. you can see more of that on c-span 3 today beginning at 4:40 eastern or on our website. >> the thing about eisenhower is that he would never tell anybody whether he was going to use nuclear weapons. why is this important? >> because in the 1950's when nuclear weapons were new and we threatened to use them at various stages. but nobody ever knew whether he meant it. and of course to
then i got all of the defense lawyers to sign it. the white house counsel. and then my son told me you're missing one signature dad. guess the signature i was missing? >> you're own? >> the president. >> when the trial took place -- >> wait a minute. i got the president to sign it >> he did? >> sure. >> where is it now? >> hanging in a safe place. i -- people say how did you get the president to sign it and i say i asked him to. i handed it to him...
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>> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that. >> governor palin answered the questions in her debate on her terms. >> governor palin, is that so? >> that's not so, but because that's a quick answer i want to talk about my record on energy. >> she was able to pivot most of the questions on to ground that she was comfortable in handling the questions on. >> they kept grilling me. >> do you believe college is stupid? >> i -- >> don't you think that saying college is stupid is an irresponsible remark to make? >> no. for some people college is stupid. >> you just gave him some tape. >> now they'll make a commercial of you saying college is stupid. >> he says college is stupid. >> college is stupid.
>> so you're soft on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that. >> governor palin answered the questions in her debate on her terms. >> governor...
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and hart, who had been on such an offensive all of a sudden has to be on the defensive, and he doesn't handle it very well. >> there were several things that hart didn't handle well, but that's another story. >> he was reeling. we came right back in with another punch, which was the red phone. >> the most awesome, powerful responsibility in the world lies in the hand that picks up this phone. >> again, they used emotion to sell the idea that gary hart was style, not substance. >> vote as if the future of the world is at stake. >> decades later -- >> it's 3:00 a.m., and your children are safe and asleep, but there's a phone in the white house and it's ringing. >> hillary clinton's consultants used the same theme to attack barack obama. >> who do you want answering the phone? >> in this case it was barack obama, because he answered the red phone at 3:00 in the morning. said, gary heart answered the red phone at 2:00 in the morning. did they steal it from us? absolutely. >> today's ads are more likely to be direct attacks. >> barack obama, what a disappointment. >> americans say we don't
and hart, who had been on such an offensive all of a sudden has to be on the defensive, and he doesn't handle it very well. >> there were several things that hart didn't handle well, but that's another story. >> he was reeling. we came right back in with another punch, which was the red phone. >> the most awesome, powerful responsibility in the world lies in the hand that picks up this phone. >> again, they used emotion to sell the idea that gary hart was style, not...
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a petty officer first class, assigned to the defense attache office, killed. civil engineer corps builder, killed, boulder first class, and four marine security guards wounded and -- in the terrorist bombing in -- in east beirut. a steelworker, a second-class of underwater construction team won, killed by terrorists in athens, greece. of the marines assigned to a security guard detachment, san salvador, killed by a terrorist armed with automatic weapons in a cafe in san salvador. 37 killed, five wounded when the uss stark was struck by iraqi missiles. a terrorist grenade attack at the uso club in barcelona, spain. colonel richard higgins killed by two pro-iranian terrorists, some one struck by an iranian mine. japanese red army terrorist of the u. s. 0 club in naples, italy. lost and attack helicopter during an operation against iranian naval forces. a captain and defense naval attache killed by a terrorist car bomb in athens, greece. that was just during one the administration of president known for his strong defense policy. we should be thankful for the sac
a petty officer first class, assigned to the defense attache office, killed. civil engineer corps builder, killed, boulder first class, and four marine security guards wounded and -- in the terrorist bombing in -- in east beirut. a steelworker, a second-class of underwater construction team won, killed by terrorists in athens, greece. of the marines assigned to a security guard detachment, san salvador, killed by a terrorist armed with automatic weapons in a cafe in san salvador. 37 killed,...
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percolating up through the courts already going back to 1950 other cases of the naacp legal and education defense fund that thurgood marshall is actually bringing. and he's building kind of brick by brick, block by block. thurgood marshall not yet a justice of the supreme court, he's making the case that plessy v. ferguson, which defined the acceptability of separate but equal. they're making a case to the naacp that this cannot remain the law of the land. and it's pretty clear that the case that is going to become a very common for important one for the court is actually the year that rehnquist is there is brown v. board of education. some assurance that in fact to be the case that strikes the doctrine down. very, very important in a unanimous decision of the supreme court. so rehnquist is part of the role of the clerk is to offer his advice and opinions to his boss about these cases. so rehnquist writes a memo about brown v. board of education and he basically says that plessy should stand. rehnquist offers this memo, gives it to jackie. jackson doesn't -- i'm sure jackson read the memo, but he
percolating up through the courts already going back to 1950 other cases of the naacp legal and education defense fund that thurgood marshall is actually bringing. and he's building kind of brick by brick, block by block. thurgood marshall not yet a justice of the supreme court, he's making the case that plessy v. ferguson, which defined the acceptability of separate but equal. they're making a case to the naacp that this cannot remain the law of the land. and it's pretty clear that the case...
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he was acquitted for self-defense. the foregoing into political career, the it doesn't help if you've been on trial for murder. that's not good. in fact, thurmond would run for the house of representatives a couple years later and ended up finishing a distant third. he would never run for electoral office again. the dnc been an behind the scenes guy, behind the scenes figuring south carolina politics. and he would support important candidates and he was kind of manage things behind the scenes. and one of the campaigns that he managed was a campaign that was very influential in the life of young strom thurmond. it was in 1912 senatorial election between ira jones, who is a former speaker of the house in south carolina. i was the candidate that strom thurmond's father, will thurmond supported. ira jones versus coleman believes, another important figure, very influential figure. and thurmond that always tells the story, people asked him, how did you get involved in politics? when did you know you want to be a politician?
he was acquitted for self-defense. the foregoing into political career, the it doesn't help if you've been on trial for murder. that's not good. in fact, thurmond would run for the house of representatives a couple years later and ended up finishing a distant third. he would never run for electoral office again. the dnc been an behind the scenes guy, behind the scenes figuring south carolina politics. and he would support important candidates and he was kind of manage things behind the scenes....
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one of them is in defense spending, because i've taken on some of the defense contractors. i saved the taxpayers $6. 8 billion in a deal for an air force tanker that was done in a corrupt fashion. i believe that we have to eliminate the earmarks. and sometimes those projects, not -- not the overhead projector that senator obama asked for, but some of them that are really good projects, will have -- will have to be eliminated, as well. and they'll have to undergo the same scrutiny that all projects should in competition with others. so we're going to have to tell the american people that spending is going to have to be cut in america. and i recommend a spending freeze that -- except for defense, veterans affairs, and some other vital programs, we'll just have to have across-the- board freeze. and some of those programs may not grow as much as we would like for them to, but we can establish priorities with full transparency, with full knowledge of the american people, and full consultation, not done behind closed doors and shoving earmarks in the middle of the night into prog
one of them is in defense spending, because i've taken on some of the defense contractors. i saved the taxpayers $6. 8 billion in a deal for an air force tanker that was done in a corrupt fashion. i believe that we have to eliminate the earmarks. and sometimes those projects, not -- not the overhead projector that senator obama asked for, but some of them that are really good projects, will have -- will have to be eliminated, as well. and they'll have to undergo the same scrutiny that all...
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>> so you're sof on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that. >> governor palin answered the questions in her debate on her terms. >> governor palin, is that so? >> that's not so, but becau that's a quick answer i want to talk about my record on energy. >> she was able to pivot most of the questions on to ground that she was comfortable in handling the questions on. >> they kept grilling me. >> do you believe college is stupid? >> i -- >> don't you think that saying college is stupids an irresponsible remark to make? >> no. for some people college is stupid. >> you just gave him some tape. >> now they'll make a commercial of you saying college is stupid. >> he says college i stupid. >> college is stupid. >> s
>> so you're sof on defense? >> i knew how i should answer the questions, but under pressure it's hard. i'm saying take it back to the clinton days. "instinct is to answer the questions that are asked, but consultants day don't. >> you're still answering my questions, but most of the time you want to be delivering your message. >> they say sarah palin was good at that. >> governor palin answered the questions in her debate on her terms. >> governor...
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when he's on the defensive i think he looks weak and he has to stay on the march. >> chris: what is the top priority, bob for the president in the debate and given it is a town hall, how does he get more aggressive with romney when he has to respond to the questions of real people about their real problems and he's not just getting questions from reporters? >> well, to answer your broad question, the race is volatile and can go either direction, i think. and what is really important for obama,e can't come on in the next debate, and all of a sudden be a different person. in a radical way. people are going to say, wait, is it showmanship? and i think the key question is, everyone is kicking around this idea of, are you better off, now, than you were, four years ago? i think the question people want answered is, how are you going to make me better off, in next year, in the next four years, and if you really look at the details, neither campaign is answered that sufficiently and, it is quite possible that somebody is going to come out with something and explain what they really mean, whatir
when he's on the defensive i think he looks weak and he has to stay on the march. >> chris: what is the top priority, bob for the president in the debate and given it is a town hall, how does he get more aggressive with romney when he has to respond to the questions of real people about their real problems and he's not just getting questions from reporters? >> well, to answer your broad question, the race is volatile and can go either direction, i think. and what is really important...
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turk deployed defense systems on the border with syria hours after fighter gets were set to confront a syrian chopper here the border in response to turkey's shelling and this month killed five civilians. they said they would respond to any further attacks from the neighboring country. and the prime minister slammed the security counsel for the not doing enough to stop the civil war in syria. well, thousands of people celebrated the life of a little girl who was taken too soon. last night people lit candles and said prayers in memories of jessica ridgewell, kidnapped and killed last week on her way to school. earlier in the day, hundreds of balloons all in jessica's favorite colors were released. >> we want to honor her the best we can. we love her. >> thank you. >> it's amazing 3, 2, 1... (cheers) >> and police are still searching for jessica's killer and they're asking the community to report anything suspicious. if you know anything. overnight a movie premier in west hollywood turns ugly. police were called to break up a crowd of more than hundreds of skate boarders waiting to see
turk deployed defense systems on the border with syria hours after fighter gets were set to confront a syrian chopper here the border in response to turkey's shelling and this month killed five civilians. they said they would respond to any further attacks from the neighboring country. and the prime minister slammed the security counsel for the not doing enough to stop the civil war in syria. well, thousands of people celebrated the life of a little girl who was taken too soon. last night...
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>> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's wawe are talking about. >> what national security issues -- >> who is -- >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines. 120 cargo planes. we are going to push -- >> drawing down -- one more and one war? >> if these curts go through, our navy will be the smallest it has been since before world war i. this invites weakness. look, do we believe in peace through strength? you bet we do. that means you don't impose the devastating cuts on the military. we are saying don't cut the military by $1 trillion. not increase it, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> quickly, vice-president. i want to move on. >> i might add, i know we don't want to use the fancy word, sequestered, the automatic cut. that's part of a debt deal that they asked for. lets me tell what you he said alta press conference -- i am paraphrasing. he said, we have been looking for this moment for a long time. >> kitell what you that meant? we have been looking for bipartisanship for a long time. >> that's what he vo
>> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's wawe are talking about. >> what national security issues -- >> who is -- >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines. 120 cargo planes. we are going to push -- >> drawing down -- one more and one war? >> if these curts go through, our navy will be the smallest it has been since before world war i. this invites weakness. look, do we believe in peace through strength? you bet we do. that means you don't...
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thurmond was at the forefront of all of those issues in his own politics on national defense. he was a staunch anti-communist and played an important role in anti-communist politics -- policies and was one of the things that led him to switch parties in 1964. here's a key figure in opposing labor unions and he did so alongside people like eric goldwater starting in the late 1950's even though early in his career he was a staunch advocate of unions in south carolina back in the 30s and 40s when the union felt was an important vote in south carolina but he switches in the 50s and 60's them by the 1970s becomes a die-hard supporter of business against labor. then he also had an important role in conservative evangelical politics. he joins the bob jones -- in 1950 and bob jones had just moved to the country from the university and thurmond needed votes from the south carolina. he had lost to olin johnson and that began a long process, long relationship with thurmond with conservative fundamentalist and evangelical folks who were looking to get involved in the political process. so
thurmond was at the forefront of all of those issues in his own politics on national defense. he was a staunch anti-communist and played an important role in anti-communist politics -- policies and was one of the things that led him to switch parties in 1964. here's a key figure in opposing labor unions and he did so alongside people like eric goldwater starting in the late 1950's even though early in his career he was a staunch advocate of unions in south carolina back in the 30s and 40s when...
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one of them is in defense spending, because i've taken on some of the defense contractors. i saved the taxpayers $6.8 billion in a deal for an air force tanker that was done in a corrupt fashion. i believe that we have to eliminate the earmarks. and sometimes those projects, not the overhead projector that senator obama asked for, but some of them that are really good projects, will have to be eliminated as well. and they'll have to undergo the same scrutiny that all projects should in competition with others. so we're going to have to tell the american people that spending is going to have to be cut in america. and i recommend a spending freeze that, except for defense, veterans affairs, and some other vital programs, we'll just have to have across-the-board freeze. and some of those programs may not grow as much as we would like for them to, but we can establish priorities with full transparency, with full knowledge of the american people, and full consultation, not done behind closed doors and shoving earmarks in the middle of the night into programs that we don't even -
one of them is in defense spending, because i've taken on some of the defense contractors. i saved the taxpayers $6.8 billion in a deal for an air force tanker that was done in a corrupt fashion. i believe that we have to eliminate the earmarks. and sometimes those projects, not the overhead projector that senator obama asked for, but some of them that are really good projects, will have to be eliminated as well. and they'll have to undergo the same scrutiny that all projects should in...
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national defense. i tramped in 111 countries in recent years and everywhere you go in the world you can find ample reason to worry about our situation . we are not the most popular country in the world, i have discovered that. >> i want to get your perspective and appreciate you coming here . what is going on in the middle east and places like libya and cairo and when we see the anti-american protest and they are fermenting. >> we are not popular years ago. >> but riot after riot what happened? >> you can sort of see that what was happening. part out of the jealousy. we are fortunate and we have been and i hope we will continue to be. you go to the middle east and i was in israel four or five months ago now. and i was in egypt a few months ago. and the situation could blow up overnight. >> what about joe biden telling paul ryan to calm down about the iran threat and they are years away . ryan said no, it is worse than you think . benjamin netanyahu and not meeting with president obama. what did you thi
national defense. i tramped in 111 countries in recent years and everywhere you go in the world you can find ample reason to worry about our situation . we are not the most popular country in the world, i have discovered that. >> i want to get your perspective and appreciate you coming here . what is going on in the middle east and places like libya and cairo and when we see the anti-american protest and they are fermenting. >> we are not popular years ago. >> but riot after...
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both of those it's entitlements, medicare and medicaid, and defense spending. what do we get on either of those? sorry to be the libertarian on this. they're never addressed. you get squishy, vague things. they don't want to talk about things that will annoy people. >> they've made this totally corrupt from the standpoint of their own ideology, corrupt generational bargain. welfare state for the older voters and privatization for everyone else. there's no ideological -- >> they're also making the bet that these two people don't know each other. >> that's right. that's a great one. >> that grandma who is 75 is not in tune or doesn't care about what's happening to her grandchildren who are 25 or 30. >> my grandmother never cared. that might be very specific to my family. >> someone like me is intensely worried about my social security dependent mom and whether or not she's going to have to go out and bargain for, you know, her medicare benefits or if i am going to have to get on the phone on her behalf and have -- or me pay the difference or that she does not hav
both of those it's entitlements, medicare and medicaid, and defense spending. what do we get on either of those? sorry to be the libertarian on this. they're never addressed. you get squishy, vague things. they don't want to talk about things that will annoy people. >> they've made this totally corrupt from the standpoint of their own ideology, corrupt generational bargain. welfare state for the older voters and privatization for everyone else. there's no ideological -- >> they're...
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budget, and you're going increase the defense. >> we're just not going to cut the defense budget. >> you suggested 2 trillion. >> more than that. >> so no massive -- >> defense increase. >> you want to get into defense now. >> yes, i do, i do because that's another math question. >> okay, how do you do that? >> so they propose a $478 billion cut to defense to begin with. now we have another $500 billion cut to defense that's lurking on the horizon. they insisted upon that cuts being involved in the debt negotiations. and so now we have a 1 trillion. >> let's put the automatic defense cut as side. no one wants that. but i want to know, how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending. >> $2 trillion. >> you don't cut defense by a trillion dollars, that is what we are talking about. >> what national security issues justify an increase. >> we're going cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. we're going to push the joint -- >> drawing down in one war. >> if these cut goes through our navy will be the smallest it has been since before world war i. this invites
budget, and you're going increase the defense. >> we're just not going to cut the defense budget. >> you suggested 2 trillion. >> more than that. >> so no massive -- >> defense increase. >> you want to get into defense now. >> yes, i do, i do because that's another math question. >> okay, how do you do that? >> so they propose a $478 billion cut to defense to begin with. now we have another $500 billion cut to defense that's lurking on the...
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the reagan defense. they've relyied on drawing a comparison to ronald reagan as well as one other president. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i think paul ryan knew where that was going. i'm joined by erol lewis and thomas frank, thank you for sticking around and talking to us. you know, in looking back at this it really taxes the way that they come up in these debates. the thing they're not talking about are mitt romney's taxes. the idea that they can look back and talk about taxes and ryan still getting caught with these lies and then the next day saying that's exactly what we meant to say. how does this work, errol. >> a promise has been made. a big broad promise has been made to splash taxes. it's estimated by a reasonable objective source that this could cost treasury 5 trillion-dollar over ten years. a lot of people are naturally curi
the reagan defense. they've relyied on drawing a comparison to ronald reagan as well as one other president. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i think paul ryan knew where that was going. i'm joined by erol lewis and thomas frank, thank you for sticking around and talking to us. you know, in looking...
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don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we're talking about. >> what national security issue -- >> who's cutting it by $1 trillion? >> ryan simply can't explain his 20% tax cut. bottom -- >> you have refused, and, again, to offer specifics on how you pay for that 20% across the board tax cut. do you actually have the specifics or are you still working on it and that's why you won't tell voters? >> different than this administration, we actually want to have big bipartisan agreements. you see, i understand -- >> do you have the specifics? do you have the -- do you know exactly what you're doing? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. >> no specifics? >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. start with the wealthy, work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math will add up? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed, six studies verified this math adds up. >> ryan promises, the numbers, they'll add up. someday. my math teacher would not have accepted that answer and i don't think yours wou
don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we're talking about. >> what national security issue -- >> who's cutting it by $1 trillion? >> ryan simply can't explain his 20% tax cut. bottom -- >> you have refused, and, again, to offer specifics on how you pay for that 20% across the board tax cut. do you actually have the specifics or are you still working on it and that's why you won't tell voters? >> different than this administration, we actually want to have...
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., meaning al qaeda, bob gates, the former secretary of defense, effective and then i don't know what the other two words were saying. >> i should say, they put that out online today, we saw a picture of it online. what happened backstage when you talked to them? >> reporter: when we went back and saw vice president biden, it happened to be right at the time when he was getting a call from president obama, congratulating him on his debate and one of the things paul ryan said to me is, he said, boy, i really -- it's great. i've been looking at a lot of tapes of you for a long time and you've been to afghanistan a lot of times. >> do you know? >> reporter: i don't. i used to keep track in iraq. i can tell you, that was 21 times. but i think to the region, pakistan, afghanistan, i've lost track, but it's definitely dozens of times. >> all right, well, martha raddatz, it was a big job and you were absolutely masterful and head on out now and see you on the air next week. >> bye-bye, diane. >> as you heard, martha asked points questions about libya, benghazi and the violence that cost four
., meaning al qaeda, bob gates, the former secretary of defense, effective and then i don't know what the other two words were saying. >> i should say, they put that out online today, we saw a picture of it online. what happened backstage when you talked to them? >> reporter: when we went back and saw vice president biden, it happened to be right at the time when he was getting a call from president obama, congratulating him on his debate and one of the things paul ryan said to me...
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i think what we're seeing is an absence of an actual defense of ryan's performance so they're grabbing for libya. >> i want to go back to that because obstruction is not discussed enough on the national stage and paul ryan kept with this lie of we're trying to be bipartisan and biden repeatedly pointed out areas of obstruction. he pointed out congress' 7% approval rating, which is the point of obstruction, to ruin congress' rating so americans will throw out the party in power. he talked about the embassy security money being removed, he talked about if they just get out of the way. even the stimulus letter moment, which i loved. ryan is trying to attack the stimulus, and he said, well, you asked gor stimulus money twice. you wrote me two letters which proves republicans know that these policies are valuable and important and helpful to americans and still they oppose them. >> indeed. joy, the republican divorce from reality based thinking was evident inside the debate hall but you saw it outsides a well. take a listen to this. >> who said communist down here? what do you mean by that?
i think what we're seeing is an absence of an actual defense of ryan's performance so they're grabbing for libya. >> i want to go back to that because obstruction is not discussed enough on the national stage and paul ryan kept with this lie of we're trying to be bipartisan and biden repeatedly pointed out areas of obstruction. he pointed out congress' 7% approval rating, which is the point of obstruction, to ruin congress' rating so americans will throw out the party in power. he talked...
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cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we're talking about. >> what national security issue can justify an increase? >> we're going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. we're going on push the joint -- >> this invites weakness. look, do we believe in peace, you bet we do, and that means you don't impose these devastating cuts on our military. we're saying don't cut the military by $1 trillion. not increase it by $1 is trillion. don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> quickly, vice president biden. might want to move on. >> we don't cut it. i might add, i know we don't want to use fancy words to question this automatic cut. that was part of a debt deal that they asked for, and let me tell you at my friend said at a press conference announcing he supported t deal. he said we've been looking for this moment for a long time. >> i tell you what that meant? >> automatic cuts in defense that they didn't act, and beyond that they ask for another -- look, the military says we need asmaller, lr army. we need
cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we're talking about. >> what national security issue can justify an increase? >> we're going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. we're going on push the joint -- >> this invites weakness. look, do we believe in peace, you bet we do, and that means you don't impose these devastating cuts on our military. we're saying don't cut the military by $1 trillion. not increase it by $1 is trillion. don't cut it by $1...
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in libya there was no ministry of defense under gadhafi, and we don't even have a minister of defense in the newly-reformed, so curbing military power in the narrow sense of an army isn't the main issue in tunisia either, and i actually think -- excuse me, libya -- and i actually think that probably, you know, 95% of the 250,000 or so libyans walking around with weapons are trying to keep the peace, not make mischief. .. and the security forces and in defense of the regime that is where the action is, not in the military. you're the geopolitics guy. >> i thought the worst-case scenario for the algerian military is instability in northern mali. and you know what is going on in the eastern front with libya. i know that some troops had to be redeployed in the eastern front because of the, the traffic of armaments and drugs and other issues. this is the worst case so. >> i just want to take the opportunity to answer a question that hasn't been asked. but, this is something that i was thinking about. it's slightly related to your question but it's something that dr. roberts mentioned this
in libya there was no ministry of defense under gadhafi, and we don't even have a minister of defense in the newly-reformed, so curbing military power in the narrow sense of an army isn't the main issue in tunisia either, and i actually think -- excuse me, libya -- and i actually think that probably, you know, 95% of the 250,000 or so libyans walking around with weapons are trying to keep the peace, not make mischief. .. and the security forces and in defense of the regime that is where the...
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defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million, don't cut it by $1 trillion. >> congressman burgess, what the democrats are saying romney would spend over $2 trillion more in defense than obama while at the same time, he's promising to balance the budget. how does that math add up? >> well, look, the first thing of course that has to be faced is january 2nd law signed by president obama actually cuts both domestic and military spending by $50 billion each across the board for the next ten years. regardless of what happens in the election, that is going to have to be dealt with. that is a reality that is out there right
defense spending, let's start with that. moderator martha raddatz pressed ryan on that. >> i want to know how you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we are talking about. >> what national security issue justify an increase? >> we are going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. >> drawing down? >> don't cut the military by $1 trillion, not increase it by $1 million,...
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ryan on the defensive, ryan the bystander says "the washington post." will it last? america watched the vice-president interrupt frequently, smirk far too much and just get the facts plain wrong. and paul ryan went right at the obama record and the issues, taxes in particular. and he won the warned the middle class, watch out, this president will take more of you. you'll see it on the program and astonished at this. the european union wins the nobel peace prize, yes, collapsing rioting europe wins for peace, incredible. "varney & company" is about to begin. >> ryan focussed on the issues and biden focusing on attacking and interrupting. you could argue either man won. one of the big moments when they were talking about taxes and listen to this exchange. >> the only way you can find 5 trillion dollars in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle class people, cut the health care deduction, middle class people, take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why they-- >> is he wrong about that? >> he's wrong about that. >> how
ryan on the defensive, ryan the bystander says "the washington post." will it last? america watched the vice-president interrupt frequently, smirk far too much and just get the facts plain wrong. and paul ryan went right at the obama record and the issues, taxes in particular. and he won the warned the middle class, watch out, this president will take more of you. you'll see it on the program and astonished at this. the european union wins the nobel peace prize, yes, collapsing...
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and non-defense spending. i'm pleased to welcome him here to the cato. let me begin by introducing benjamin zycher. then we will continue with dr. fuller. thank you very much. [applause] >> thanks, chris, i appreciate it. and thanks to cato for hosting the event and thanks to all of you for your time and attention. i want to discuss the topics. first, the simple analytics of proposed reductions in defense outlays in the context of gdp growth and aggregate employment. second, i want to offer a few brief comments on steve fuller's recent estimates of economic effects of cuts in defense spending, estimates that have received a substantial amount of attention recently. when i do that, i ask that you keep a straight face, steve, unlike the festivities last night. third, if you summary data on defense outlays on the relationship between defense outlays and gdp growth. what i will not discuss today is the appropriate size and composition of the defense budget. that would require a delineation of u.s. interest, vital,
and non-defense spending. i'm pleased to welcome him here to the cato. let me begin by introducing benjamin zycher. then we will continue with dr. fuller. thank you very much. [applause] >> thanks, chris, i appreciate it. and thanks to cato for hosting the event and thanks to all of you for your time and attention. i want to discuss the topics. first, the simple analytics of proposed reductions in defense outlays in the context of gdp growth and aggregate employment. second, i want to...
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increaseu're going to -- >> we are not going to cut the defense budget. >> no massive defense increase? how do you do that? >> a proposed $478 billion cut to defense. now we have another $500 billion cut defense that is working on the horizon. they insisted upon that being involved in the debt negotiations. >> no one wants that, but i want to know how you do the math. >> you do not cut the defense by a trillion dollars. we will cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. if these cuts go through, our navy will be the smallest it has been since before world war i. this invites weakness. do we believe in peace through strength? you bet we do. do not cut the military by a trillion dollars. not increase it by a trillion, do not cut it by a trillion. >> we do not cut it. this so-called automatic cut, that was part of the debt deal they asked for. let me tell you what my friend said at a press conference. we have been looking for this moment for a long time. >> can i tell you what that meant? >> the bipartisanship was what he voted for the automatic cuts in defense because they di
increaseu're going to -- >> we are not going to cut the defense budget. >> no massive defense increase? how do you do that? >> a proposed $478 billion cut to defense. now we have another $500 billion cut defense that is working on the horizon. they insisted upon that being involved in the debt negotiations. >> no one wants that, but i want to know how you do the math. >> you do not cut the defense by a trillion dollars. we will cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines,...
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defense increases. >> you want to get into defense now? >> i do, i do, because that's another math question. how do you do that? >> so, they proposed a $478 billion cut to defense to begin with. now we have another $500 billion cut to defense that's lurking on the horizon. they insisted upon that cut being involved in the debt negotiations and now we put the 1 trillion -- >> let's put the automatic defense cuts asdplid i'd like to go back to that. >> how do you do the math and have this increase in defense spending? >> $2 trillion. you don't cut defense by $1 trillion. that's what we're talking about. we're going to cut 80,000 soldiers, 20,000 marines, 120 cargo planes. we're -- >> drawing down in one war and one war. >> if these cuts go through, our navy will be the smallest it has been since before world war i. this invites weakness. look, do we believe in peace through strength? you bet we do, and that means you don't impose these devastating cuts on our military. so we're saying don't cut the military by $1 trillion. not increase it by
defense increases. >> you want to get into defense now? >> i do, i do, because that's another math question. how do you do that? >> so, they proposed a $478 billion cut to defense to begin with. now we have another $500 billion cut to defense that's lurking on the horizon. they insisted upon that cut being involved in the debt negotiations and now we put the 1 trillion -- >> let's put the automatic defense cuts asdplid i'd like to go back to that. >> how do you do...